Hola,

Acá mando la versión final de la traducción, que contiene unos compromisos terribles que tuve que hacer para dejar satisfecha a la "traductora reticente in da house (que no es tal)", y algunas correcciones que ella con toda gentileza me permitió hacer.

Comentarios para ella:

- "Pointing out at" lo pasé a "Pointing at", porque "Pointing out" existe, "Pointing at" existe, y "Pointing out at" fue un engendro de Phrasal Verb que se te ocurrió por no tomar suficiente café y caerte sentada demasiado en el colectivo.

- Lo de la gente que "are" o not even "are" me dolió muchísimo. Pero lo dejé.

- "That is" a veces quiere decir "Que es", pero otras veces quiere decir "eso es". En particular, cuando está solito (como expresión parenthetical, o sea, entre paréntesis), es equivalente al "eso es" en castelluno. Ejemplos:
"That is a dog" = "Eso es un perro".
"The house that is blue on top" = "La casa que es azul en la parte de arriba"
"We'll go hunting, that is, if you remembered to bring your rifle." = "Iremos de cacería, eso es, si recordaste traer tu rifle."

Así que puse el "which is"... pero te hice caso con el "Likewise" porque respeto los traumas infantiles que puedas tener respecto a la correspondencia comercial.

- Entendí que lo que pasa con traducir

045 VM: o sea, vos expones el video

como

045 VM: that is, you show the video

en vez de tu versión:

045 VM: that is, that you're showing the video

Es que en mi versión se entiende la actividad de mostrar el video como algo en el futuro, y que en tu versión hablás del presente (cosa que en el tiempo verbal castellano es ambiguo). Sin embargo saqué el "that" ese que estaba de más, quedó "that is, you're showing the video" que es más fiel al original y respeta esa "Tense thing" que era taaan difícil de explicar por un medio escrito bidimensional.

Bueno, eso es todo. Creo que con esto alguien va a ganar un viaje a Weimar. Espero que sobren pasajes así voy yo también.

Saludos,
Eric

001 Pelado Gualda says: vicky LONDON!
002 Vicky Marquez says: how's it going?
003 PG: hey, can i make you an "artsy" question?
004 VM: yes, i've a bit of delay but it's OK
005 PG: did you see the "almost a pop star" posting?
006 VM: yes
007 PG: did you watch the video?
008 VM: no
009 PG: it's a very corny video, very cheeky, etc
010 PG: and I want to present it as "artwork"
011 PG: the thing is whether the title would be enough for it to be a "ready made" or there should be more done to it... etc...
012 PG: "ready made out of a video clip of an almost pop star"
013 VM: ready made?
014 PG: something like that... and that's it... or some txt at the start with a voice-over etc...
015 VM: mmmm
016 PG: what are you thinking...
017 VM: not sure about the ready made thing
018 PG: i need to UNDERSTAND a bit more what a ready made is... perhaps...
019 VM: i liked the voice-over thing
020 VM: ready made is to point at something
021 VM: and calling it art
022 PG: THAT'S THE IDEA
023 VM: "signing an urinal and showing it"
024 PG: that's why I think that I mean to do a ready made
025 VM: so, you'd be the new duchamp
026 PG: after you see the video
027 PG: i can assure you the urinal will seem like the venus de milo
028 VM: i'm not sure if i can be of much help
029 PG: i just need the concept, i'll handle the rest...
030 VM: if i had a mic i'd record something for you
031 PG: there's not much to be done anyway
032 PG: the thing is (the real issue)
033 PG: that i NEED the artistic intention to show...
034 PG: i NEED it to be understood that it's a ready made...
035 PG: but i'm not sure it'd be coherent to put it in the title etc etc etc
036 PG: what do you think? interested? is it crap? tell me...
037 PG: i don't know how to make the "artwork" be showing the video and not the video itself.
038 PG: what do you think?
039 VM: pointing at something
040 PG: perfect, agreed
041 PG: THAT is, sorta, my plan
042 PG: thing is: with a voice-over? the title? both?
043 VM: i can make a small write-up
044 VM: as "curator"
045 VM: that is, you're showing the video
046 VM: it's a ready made because you work on an video that's already done
047 VM: it's signed by gualda
048 VM: AN OBJET TROUVI!!!!!!!!
049 VM: EUREKA!
050 VM: I FOUND IT!
051 PG: ok, how is it done?
052 PG: tell me PLEASE
053 VM: yes, it's an objet trouvi
054 VM: the dadaists found things and showed them as work
055 VM: tinguely took pieces of iron from the trash and made the ciclograveur
056 VM: schwitters and his merzbau
057 VM: and gualda found a video
058 VM: that he didn't make
059 VM: but that he did make
060 VM: when he found it
061 VM: and singled it out
062 VM: like signed cigars that are later consumed
063 VM: a moment of ephemeral artistic pleasure
064 VM: signed by gualda
065 VM: (signing cigars was a duchamp ready made)
066 VM: (i had a txt about it but my idiot classmates lost it)
067 PG: ok, this chat could be part of the work...? or in part at least...
068 VM: yes, that's how the "text" gestates
069 VM: which is, anyway, just a bunch of pseudo-quotes from "somebodies"
070 VM: which are actually misquoted from people that don't even "are".
071 VM: anyway
072 VM: your objet trouvi should be contextualized
073 VM: AND
074 VM: you need to be aware that anybody who knows who sees "the text" will realize
075 VM: that "the text" is a bunch of lies
076 VM: and just one of many unoriginal parodies to the "art-system"
077 PG: but i believe in the strength of images...
078 PG: i feel it...
079 PG: I FEEL LIKE A REAL ARTIST
080 PG: (bullshit)
081 VM: you need someone to introduce you to the world of art
082 PG: i thought of you...
083 VM: and you think i can be the one to "introduce you"
084 VM: it's not like that really, it's "diving in"
085 VM: the world of art is like a bucket you have to dive in
086 VM: and obviously, you bounce back
087 VM: but it doesn't even exist... just something to soak your feet in...
088 VM: sorry, my ramblings are going in a different direction
089 PG: so showing a video of an almost pop star is like soaking your legs in a bucket?
090 PG: what i'd thought to "contextualize"
091 PG: was a voice-over with the story of the guy
093 PG: "among almost 4000 competitors, in a reality show, only 5 remained, hernan lopez sosa was sixth, the last one to lose..."
094 PG: "the last one out" (perhaps better)
095 VM: (you're digging the parentheses thing now)
096 PG: (did you notice, i abuse it all the time)
097 VM: (yes, you should stop)
098 PG: (it's addictive... i don't know what to do...)
099 PG: hey, my wife is waiting for me...
103 VM: i want to write
104 VM: i don't put myself to it but i have ideas
105 VM: we'll see what we do with the popstar later
106 VM: are you gonna put the whole chat?
107 PG: no... i don't think so...
108 PG: let's not save it... ephemeral art...
109 VM: no, come on save it my ideas fly away fast
110 VM: that way i'll remember what i said about menna and the cigars
111 PG: the subtitles while the video runs
112 VM: ok, see you later artiste nouveau
113 VM: "new estol"
114 VM: hahaha
115 PG: ok, but we'll retouch it
116 VM: feeaaaaaarful gualda
117 VM: shy gualda
118 VM: now i starta making fun of you so you'll surely cut this out
119 VM: (will you retaliate?)
120 PG: i'd never (i'm a gentleman)
121 VM: I CAN'T STAND ESTOL
122 VM: OVERINFLATED ARTIST!
123 VM: (now start complaining around)
125 VM: GUALDA DOESN'T KNOW WHO TO COMPLAIN ABOUT!
126 VM: IN CAPS, NORBER!
127 PG: YOU CAN'T HAVE A SIMPLE CHAT ANYMORE, EVERYTHING IS "ARTWORK" NOW
128 PG: WANT MORE?
129 VM: YES!
130 PG: PABLO FERNANDEZ OF ROCK & POP RADIO IN NEUQUEN SHOULD GET HIS ACT TOGETHER AND PUT THE MAP IN THE TAB
131 VM: GUALDA HAD A PIECE OF RED PEPPER STUCK BETWEEN HIS TEETH AND NO ONE TOLD HIM SO!